05-20-2015, 02:58 PM
I did the math a little while back. If the current permits stand as is.
With the current state of permits it would be wise to never put in for just bonus points.
Point's don't do you anything unless you are at the top of the points pool.
Utah is a 50/50 state. 50% go to top points and 50% go into the random draw. It's a pretty fair system.
This all varies on unit also, some units have less max points than others. Though this is what it will take to get everyone through the system.
For me as a NR beginning next year it will take me.
LE Deer 860 Years
LE Elk 97 Years
LE Pronghorn 8 Years
OIL D-Bighorn - Infinite
OIL R- Bighorn - Infinite
OIL Bison - 5582 Years
OIL Goat - 11,856 Years
OIL Moose - 6147 Years
If I move back and become a Resident
LE Elk 11 Years
OIL Rocky Big Horn 976 Years
Others will start after if I draw the OIL/LE Tag.
NR can put in for everything, but there are not a lot of permits - so it's like flock shooting at 100 yards hoping the magic BB will kill a duck.
There are just too many people applying for the current permits. Utah is managed for trophy elk. The size of antler is the draw and units issue permits by the age of the bulls harvested (and other things). Cow/spike tags are given to manage the herds.
It would be wise to save money and apply for other states if you just want to experience a good elk hunt.
Sheep are hard to draw everywhere, but Idaho has some decent draw odds.
Idaho, Wyoming, & Maine are probably your best bet at drawing moose.
Mountain Goats is probably a better idea to go to Canada. Utah probably has the easiest draw for these.
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With the current state of permits it would be wise to never put in for just bonus points.
Point's don't do you anything unless you are at the top of the points pool.
Utah is a 50/50 state. 50% go to top points and 50% go into the random draw. It's a pretty fair system.
This all varies on unit also, some units have less max points than others. Though this is what it will take to get everyone through the system.
For me as a NR beginning next year it will take me.
LE Deer 860 Years
LE Elk 97 Years
LE Pronghorn 8 Years
OIL D-Bighorn - Infinite
OIL R- Bighorn - Infinite
OIL Bison - 5582 Years
OIL Goat - 11,856 Years
OIL Moose - 6147 Years
If I move back and become a Resident
LE Elk 11 Years
OIL Rocky Big Horn 976 Years
Others will start after if I draw the OIL/LE Tag.
NR can put in for everything, but there are not a lot of permits - so it's like flock shooting at 100 yards hoping the magic BB will kill a duck.
There are just too many people applying for the current permits. Utah is managed for trophy elk. The size of antler is the draw and units issue permits by the age of the bulls harvested (and other things). Cow/spike tags are given to manage the herds.
It would be wise to save money and apply for other states if you just want to experience a good elk hunt.
Sheep are hard to draw everywhere, but Idaho has some decent draw odds.
Idaho, Wyoming, & Maine are probably your best bet at drawing moose.
Mountain Goats is probably a better idea to go to Canada. Utah probably has the easiest draw for these.
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