04-13-2011, 03:45 AM
RE "Takin' a break right now. Lettin' Doggonefisin take over for a while. "
Hope you come back soon, it gets tiring.
In all seriousness, I do have one more comment.
RE: Mike4cobra said " The only thing this state tries to manage is trout. Regardless of who's right, wrong, has good ideas, has bad ideas, the other options are just not being explored."
You are not the only one who says this. Cliff misspells this sentiment about once a month on here. If I am the warmwater coordinator from the DWR, I would be about ready to pull my hair out of my head reading this. What more do YOU want them to do? They have developed their tiger muskie program, have wipers scheduled to be stocked into some of the most renowned TROUT lakes in the state (Minersville, Otter Creek, etc), and have good smallie and/or LMB fisheries in a majority of our reservoirs. The bass fishing in this state is quite good. I grew up in this state but moved away in 1989. Back then it WAS more like what you seem to describe now. There was Utah lake and few other spots if you wanted warmwater varieties. I moved back in 2003. In that time, the warmwater program had taken off and warmwater angling was available everywhere. I had smallie fishing beyond my highest expectations virtually in my backyard at lake X, er Jordanelle. I just don't buy that the DWR only cares about trout here. They deserve credit for what they have done with warmwater fishing, not this constant Bi#*&%ing.
Just because they don't DO what some internet "expert" suggests doesn't mean that it isn't considered. In the upper Midwest, you have natural lakes, fewer sensitive endangered fish species in the lakes and drainages, stable water levels and better habitat. Here, we have what we have. Most of you seem oblivious to the importance of the ESA (Endangered Species Act) in enacting any new action, including most of the schemes promoted here. Like it or not, the ESA trumps just about every other argument spouted out, and the majority of Americans support the act and what it does, so good luck in changing it or its effects.
It is too bad that more of you didn't participate in that Utah Lake fisheries forum. Among other things, it did show that they DO consider multiple options when dealing with a problem (in this case, carp removal) , and DO care that warmwater recreational fishing quality be maintained or enhanced.
Finally, once May first hits, I fish almost exclusively for warmwater fish until about Labor day, so don't assume that I'm just a "trout guy" venting.
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Hope you come back soon, it gets tiring.
In all seriousness, I do have one more comment.
RE: Mike4cobra said " The only thing this state tries to manage is trout. Regardless of who's right, wrong, has good ideas, has bad ideas, the other options are just not being explored."
You are not the only one who says this. Cliff misspells this sentiment about once a month on here. If I am the warmwater coordinator from the DWR, I would be about ready to pull my hair out of my head reading this. What more do YOU want them to do? They have developed their tiger muskie program, have wipers scheduled to be stocked into some of the most renowned TROUT lakes in the state (Minersville, Otter Creek, etc), and have good smallie and/or LMB fisheries in a majority of our reservoirs. The bass fishing in this state is quite good. I grew up in this state but moved away in 1989. Back then it WAS more like what you seem to describe now. There was Utah lake and few other spots if you wanted warmwater varieties. I moved back in 2003. In that time, the warmwater program had taken off and warmwater angling was available everywhere. I had smallie fishing beyond my highest expectations virtually in my backyard at lake X, er Jordanelle. I just don't buy that the DWR only cares about trout here. They deserve credit for what they have done with warmwater fishing, not this constant Bi#*&%ing.
Just because they don't DO what some internet "expert" suggests doesn't mean that it isn't considered. In the upper Midwest, you have natural lakes, fewer sensitive endangered fish species in the lakes and drainages, stable water levels and better habitat. Here, we have what we have. Most of you seem oblivious to the importance of the ESA (Endangered Species Act) in enacting any new action, including most of the schemes promoted here. Like it or not, the ESA trumps just about every other argument spouted out, and the majority of Americans support the act and what it does, so good luck in changing it or its effects.
It is too bad that more of you didn't participate in that Utah Lake fisheries forum. Among other things, it did show that they DO consider multiple options when dealing with a problem (in this case, carp removal) , and DO care that warmwater recreational fishing quality be maintained or enhanced.
Finally, once May first hits, I fish almost exclusively for warmwater fish until about Labor day, so don't assume that I'm just a "trout guy" venting.
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