01-25-2007, 03:50 AM
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[size 3][black]Here is my annual cost.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Note these are my annuals cost for fishing. What I spend for fishing a year.[/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Beer and alcohol 5.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Gas for my boat motor 2.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Equipment (new line and hooks) 7.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Worms 0.00 I dig them up out of my garden[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Minnows 0.00 I catch half dozen before I row out to my spot.[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Mousies 15.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Fishing License 24.00[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
[size 3][black]My hunting cost me last year,[/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Deer license 15.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Gas to my hunting spot 10.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Beer and alcohol 0.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Rapping paper for self hand cut 5.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]4.00 for antler less deer license lottery[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]4.00 for elk license lottery[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
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[size 3][black]I eat at least two pounds of fish per week. When I am not catching them my self I pay this per year.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]If I had to buy that fish off the market I would be spending from 350.00 - 1560 per year, depending if I wanted to eat tuna and fish sticks up to eating a slice of salmon steak lobster shrimp ect....[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]My ammo is 10 years old....[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]I don’t teach hunting to handicapped because it is too much of a gamble, that’s forty dollars they can guarantee on mac and cheese dishes.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Price is not my complaint, although it is an issue for the thousands of individuals in this state who are living on food stamps and making under 10 k per year, believe me, I have no complaints about the sticker price. When I was in the labor force I bought every license I could afford whether I hunted or not.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]While ice fishing a couple years ago, (last time we had ice enough to fish in south east mi) I had a tip-up set up on Union Lake; I was twenty yards over jigging. A CO came over and looked at my tip-up walked away and hung around for a couple hours. [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]When the flag went up, before I could get up and walk the distance, (I am handy capped my self), he went over to my tip-up and started pulling it up, when I got there, I asked him what he was doing, he said he was pulling up an unattended tip-up. I told him it was not unattended and pointed to my bucket where I was sitting; it as well as my tip-up had bigfishtackle stickers on it. Then he told me I had to have my name address and phone number on the tip-up.... [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black][black][size 3]My point is[/size][/black][black][size 3], its been two years, I am still trying to find where it says I have to have my name address and phone number on my tip-up... (To save future arguments, I made an aluminum plate and permanently mounted it to my tip-up...[/size][/black] [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]One would think that if it were a law that the market would have something to mark tip-ups and would have them on the shelf next to the tip-up like they to with fur traps...[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]What we are saying is make the books simpler, instead of ... put some organization to them, and don’t make us search though 50 pages just to see what the legal methods for fishing for pike are. If there are special regulations and so much information that it cant be printed, then tell us what web page they are on so we can go look up the unabridged version...[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]In short give us the information straightforward, make it idiot proof. Don’t make us have to hunt for it. If we can be ticketed and fined for it, it has to be in print in plain open site.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Our licenses are a joke, on some machines they come out so faded you can’t read them, on top of which they fade after time. You make the mistake of leaning against a heating banister any info on the license is gone.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]They used to be different colors for different years, different colors for small game, deer, duck, fishing, and doe.... now they are all the same. Try fumbling though a half dozen licenses with steamed up glasses on a cold November day when you can scarcely see them in your kitchen under bright lights.. At least make the printer print a picture of the animal the license is good for... say a rabbit or squirrel for small game, deer with antlers for restricted deer or deer with no antlers for does, or deer with spikes for regular license. A bass or blue gill for regular license, and because you have to have both fishing license to fish for trout, a salmon for all species fishing license. [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Our governor’s excuse is they need to raise the price of licenses because of all the printing. Duh! Send every place you send the license machine a CD and if some one wants a copy of the of some hunting regulations they can drop a quarter off at the desk for the copy fee for any special info. Or they can get it from the library for a dime. Or home computer for free.... All we really need is to know the page address where to find the info…[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]For that matter, for that matter you can make the CD available on the DNR site for a cost of 10.00 shipping and handling included a CD with all the 2007-2008 hunting regulations. Or all the rules and regulations for a 1.00 fee to down load in pdf or html formats from the state DNR website. Or free down load with any on line license purchase [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]One other thing, any one drawing food stamps should be given a fishing license and directed to the nearest public fishing holes to their home. Given information on how to catch them, how to prepare them for table fare.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]In other states, they give seniors and disabled individuals a one-dollar lifetime fishing license and discounted hunting licensing. In some states there is no fee for fishing license for low income trying to put food on their table.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]It gives them back some sense of pride and dignity to be able to do something for them selves on their own in times when our economy cannot sustain them...[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]When you think about it, what dose the state loose when you give low-income people a fishing license; A few planted fish that sportsmen are catching and releasing every year, A couple pennies for the computer printed license? I am not saying give them a trout license, trout anglers pay loads of money for their artificial sport. [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]You can make by far more money by fining industrial waist dumpers, and fine towns and counties that allow toxic waters escape form their borders with a down river act. You would be amazed as to how clean the waters in this state would become.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Run mandatory septic and sump pump test on every house on a lake every five years; I bet those lakes that have a hard time freezing in the winter start freezing over again....[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]There is a lot of ways the state can make money, with just a few acts of legislation for little or no money invested. [/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]We have CO's in the field already; they used to carry test kits to check on the ph of waters on any given day.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]If industry is polluting here, we really can’t afford to have them here. If they leave and pollute in other countries then we really don’t want their products here either. The offence is just as great as breaking child labor laws, worse when you think about it, because those same children and others are eating and bathing in their toxic waist.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Here is my annual cost.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Note these are my annuals cost for fishing. What I spend for fishing a year.[/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Beer and alcohol 5.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Gas for my boat motor 2.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Equipment (new line and hooks) 7.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Worms 0.00 I dig them up out of my garden[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Minnows 0.00 I catch half dozen before I row out to my spot.[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Mousies 15.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Fishing License 24.00[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
[size 3][black]My hunting cost me last year,[/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Deer license 15.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Gas to my hunting spot 10.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Beer and alcohol 0.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Rapping paper for self hand cut 5.00[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]4.00 for antler less deer license lottery[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]4.00 for elk license lottery[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
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[size 3][black]I eat at least two pounds of fish per week. When I am not catching them my self I pay this per year.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]If I had to buy that fish off the market I would be spending from 350.00 - 1560 per year, depending if I wanted to eat tuna and fish sticks up to eating a slice of salmon steak lobster shrimp ect....[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]My ammo is 10 years old....[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]I don’t teach hunting to handicapped because it is too much of a gamble, that’s forty dollars they can guarantee on mac and cheese dishes.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Price is not my complaint, although it is an issue for the thousands of individuals in this state who are living on food stamps and making under 10 k per year, believe me, I have no complaints about the sticker price. When I was in the labor force I bought every license I could afford whether I hunted or not.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]While ice fishing a couple years ago, (last time we had ice enough to fish in south east mi) I had a tip-up set up on Union Lake; I was twenty yards over jigging. A CO came over and looked at my tip-up walked away and hung around for a couple hours. [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]When the flag went up, before I could get up and walk the distance, (I am handy capped my self), he went over to my tip-up and started pulling it up, when I got there, I asked him what he was doing, he said he was pulling up an unattended tip-up. I told him it was not unattended and pointed to my bucket where I was sitting; it as well as my tip-up had bigfishtackle stickers on it. Then he told me I had to have my name address and phone number on the tip-up.... [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black][black][size 3]My point is[/size][/black][black][size 3], its been two years, I am still trying to find where it says I have to have my name address and phone number on my tip-up... (To save future arguments, I made an aluminum plate and permanently mounted it to my tip-up...[/size][/black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]One would think that if it were a law that the market would have something to mark tip-ups and would have them on the shelf next to the tip-up like they to with fur traps...[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]What we are saying is make the books simpler, instead of ... put some organization to them, and don’t make us search though 50 pages just to see what the legal methods for fishing for pike are. If there are special regulations and so much information that it cant be printed, then tell us what web page they are on so we can go look up the unabridged version...[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]In short give us the information straightforward, make it idiot proof. Don’t make us have to hunt for it. If we can be ticketed and fined for it, it has to be in print in plain open site.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Our licenses are a joke, on some machines they come out so faded you can’t read them, on top of which they fade after time. You make the mistake of leaning against a heating banister any info on the license is gone.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]They used to be different colors for different years, different colors for small game, deer, duck, fishing, and doe.... now they are all the same. Try fumbling though a half dozen licenses with steamed up glasses on a cold November day when you can scarcely see them in your kitchen under bright lights.. At least make the printer print a picture of the animal the license is good for... say a rabbit or squirrel for small game, deer with antlers for restricted deer or deer with no antlers for does, or deer with spikes for regular license. A bass or blue gill for regular license, and because you have to have both fishing license to fish for trout, a salmon for all species fishing license. [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Our governor’s excuse is they need to raise the price of licenses because of all the printing. Duh! Send every place you send the license machine a CD and if some one wants a copy of the of some hunting regulations they can drop a quarter off at the desk for the copy fee for any special info. Or they can get it from the library for a dime. Or home computer for free.... All we really need is to know the page address where to find the info…[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]For that matter, for that matter you can make the CD available on the DNR site for a cost of 10.00 shipping and handling included a CD with all the 2007-2008 hunting regulations. Or all the rules and regulations for a 1.00 fee to down load in pdf or html formats from the state DNR website. Or free down load with any on line license purchase [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]One other thing, any one drawing food stamps should be given a fishing license and directed to the nearest public fishing holes to their home. Given information on how to catch them, how to prepare them for table fare.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]In other states, they give seniors and disabled individuals a one-dollar lifetime fishing license and discounted hunting licensing. In some states there is no fee for fishing license for low income trying to put food on their table.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]It gives them back some sense of pride and dignity to be able to do something for them selves on their own in times when our economy cannot sustain them...[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]When you think about it, what dose the state loose when you give low-income people a fishing license; A few planted fish that sportsmen are catching and releasing every year, A couple pennies for the computer printed license? I am not saying give them a trout license, trout anglers pay loads of money for their artificial sport. [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]You can make by far more money by fining industrial waist dumpers, and fine towns and counties that allow toxic waters escape form their borders with a down river act. You would be amazed as to how clean the waters in this state would become.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Run mandatory septic and sump pump test on every house on a lake every five years; I bet those lakes that have a hard time freezing in the winter start freezing over again....[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]There is a lot of ways the state can make money, with just a few acts of legislation for little or no money invested. [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]We have CO's in the field already; they used to carry test kits to check on the ph of waters on any given day.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]If industry is polluting here, we really can’t afford to have them here. If they leave and pollute in other countries then we really don’t want their products here either. The offence is just as great as breaking child labor laws, worse when you think about it, because those same children and others are eating and bathing in their toxic waist.[/black][/size]
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