12-18-2004, 10:41 PM
There is really only one workable solution to benefit every one.
Your design will in fact have the park closed down and sold off to developers. (I have already seen unofficial plans to have where you are sitting developed in to a gigantic shopping center and on the opposite side of the main road from you will become multi million dollar homes condos and high-rises).
The wilderness you speak of will disappear from the face of the earth. If this is what you want then you are moving in the right direction. With accordance of your last reply to me with fabrications and half-truths it makes me believe that this is what you want. (An omission of a fact to distort the truth is in fact a lie)
I have to say that I really got good laugh out of your numbers. I mean really!! This one should have been placed on the joke board…LOL I mean no disrespect but expecting me or a judge to think it cost half a million dollars to pull the front end loader out of the garage, drive out to the range followed by a dump truck scoop out the lead from behind the back stops and place more fill dirt back in its place. Less than an 8-hour day for one man.
The state picks up the lead on a regular basis, usually when they believe it has enough of a lead and copper deposit to justify the cost of removal and send it off to the refineries for recycling.
Your numbers are true! The parks did spend that money on those ranges. That money went to rebuilding existing structures. Upgrading layouts for disabled shooters like my self. Built new facilities at each site to enhance the over all pleasure of the as you say multitudes of those who enjoy the shooting sport.
As I stated previously the rite of public domain will one day in your lifetime be invoked on your property, the question remains is who is going to do it, the state in its endeavor to save its park paying you what your property is worth or the developers who will pay you exactly what they paid per acre to the state for its vacant land and then destroy completely every thing other than the historical land mark on the far western section of the park and the cemetery located on the north eastern side of the park. (Cemetery is still up in the air; developers have found ways to move cemeteries in recent days)
The state pays tax money to the local communities of which you live for every thing in those parks. This includes out houses, paved roads, bike path, cabins, pavilions and other structures. So if you think the state will continue to pay for those facilities when its moneymaker is gone you have been
ly misinformed.
A smart man would sue the state to buy them out and move them across m59 so that you can live next to a park that dose not allow hunting, preferably closer to Buno road where you can not hear the range at all and enjoy living next to a large park. This is a case you can win. If you take it in the direction you are headed you will loose, even more so if you win the case. And you think the noise is bad now wait till your main road turns in to a 5-lane fairway with sirens blasting day and night.
Personally I would have more of an issue of that train that comes by your house day and night with its whistle blowing and tracks rumbling at in some cases less than one hour intervals just a hundred yards from your house.
As I said I know where you live, I too know your neighbors, some of which may or may not be relatives to me. [
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My family has been here since WWI. I have watched the changes there for the last 50 years myself.... I know full well what I am talking about.
because of the states indiscressions it would be in your best intrest to change your suit to make the state move you to where ever you want to live. you could end up with an even better setting than if there was no range in this park. Dont look at this as a negitive thing, use it to your benifit. otherwise you will loose everything. that is unless you are the developer then you stand to gain everything....
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Your design will in fact have the park closed down and sold off to developers. (I have already seen unofficial plans to have where you are sitting developed in to a gigantic shopping center and on the opposite side of the main road from you will become multi million dollar homes condos and high-rises).
The wilderness you speak of will disappear from the face of the earth. If this is what you want then you are moving in the right direction. With accordance of your last reply to me with fabrications and half-truths it makes me believe that this is what you want. (An omission of a fact to distort the truth is in fact a lie)
I have to say that I really got good laugh out of your numbers. I mean really!! This one should have been placed on the joke board…LOL I mean no disrespect but expecting me or a judge to think it cost half a million dollars to pull the front end loader out of the garage, drive out to the range followed by a dump truck scoop out the lead from behind the back stops and place more fill dirt back in its place. Less than an 8-hour day for one man.
The state picks up the lead on a regular basis, usually when they believe it has enough of a lead and copper deposit to justify the cost of removal and send it off to the refineries for recycling.
Your numbers are true! The parks did spend that money on those ranges. That money went to rebuilding existing structures. Upgrading layouts for disabled shooters like my self. Built new facilities at each site to enhance the over all pleasure of the as you say multitudes of those who enjoy the shooting sport.
As I stated previously the rite of public domain will one day in your lifetime be invoked on your property, the question remains is who is going to do it, the state in its endeavor to save its park paying you what your property is worth or the developers who will pay you exactly what they paid per acre to the state for its vacant land and then destroy completely every thing other than the historical land mark on the far western section of the park and the cemetery located on the north eastern side of the park. (Cemetery is still up in the air; developers have found ways to move cemeteries in recent days)
The state pays tax money to the local communities of which you live for every thing in those parks. This includes out houses, paved roads, bike path, cabins, pavilions and other structures. So if you think the state will continue to pay for those facilities when its moneymaker is gone you have been
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A smart man would sue the state to buy them out and move them across m59 so that you can live next to a park that dose not allow hunting, preferably closer to Buno road where you can not hear the range at all and enjoy living next to a large park. This is a case you can win. If you take it in the direction you are headed you will loose, even more so if you win the case. And you think the noise is bad now wait till your main road turns in to a 5-lane fairway with sirens blasting day and night.
Personally I would have more of an issue of that train that comes by your house day and night with its whistle blowing and tracks rumbling at in some cases less than one hour intervals just a hundred yards from your house.
As I said I know where you live, I too know your neighbors, some of which may or may not be relatives to me. [
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My family has been here since WWI. I have watched the changes there for the last 50 years myself.... I know full well what I am talking about.
because of the states indiscressions it would be in your best intrest to change your suit to make the state move you to where ever you want to live. you could end up with an even better setting than if there was no range in this park. Dont look at this as a negitive thing, use it to your benifit. otherwise you will loose everything. that is unless you are the developer then you stand to gain everything....
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