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Striper boils yet? - Greg84 - 07-13-2015
Went out yesterday at 5 am and went to the wash. I got a dink striper on a spinnow and it fell off as I lifted it into the boat... There were millions of fish on the finder, but no other bites. Didn't see any boils anywhere or anyone else hooking anything. Since we didn't have bait and the water was super dirty, we gave up around 8 am and went looking for largemouth.
Anyone seeing boils yet?
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Re: [Greg84] Striper boils yet? - BigE - 07-13-2015
[cool]I was out last Friday and paddled from the wash to the other side of sand island and saw no boils and nobody else catching either. I did see some small shad jumping in some places but saw nothing chasing them.
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Re: [BigE] Striper boils yet? - TheWhizzle - 07-14-2015
I talked to a kid the other day that said he got into a boil, but didn't specify where. He said he got ten stripers before it died down. I haven't seen any yet, but I haven't been fishing much lately.
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Re: [TheWhizzle] Striper boils yet? - wolfs4evr - 07-14-2015
I was up on the north end of the lake last Saturday. Zero boils. What there is left of coves due to the lower lake levels are chocked full of carp. 10s of thousands. Never seen so many and so active before... Only one spot that I came across had Stripers in it. Not a lot and fairly deep. Bait/jigging depths.
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Re: [wolfs4evr] Striper boils yet? - Greg84 - 07-14-2015
Well at least it wasn't just us I guess... Nothing seemed hungry this weekend. Hopefully they're out there next time.
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Re: [Greg84] Striper boils yet? - Gvec - 07-15-2015
Is it just me or is the water way too warm for the stripers in the wash? With surface temp of 89 degrees, I am thinking they may have retreated to deeper parts of the main body?
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Re: [Gvec] Striper boils yet? - Greg84 - 07-15-2015
[quote Gvec]Is it just me or is the water way too warm for the stripers in the wash? With surface temp of 89 degrees, I am thinking they may have retreated to deeper parts of the main body?[/quote]
Is that a lot warmer than normal? There were tons of fish 15-30 ft down in the main channel. I would bet those were stripers, but I guess they could be gizzards. Just going down like 5-10 ft drops the temp significantly. Just need to get below the layer of warm water floating on the surface.
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Re: [wolfs4evr] Striper boils yet? - albinotrout - 07-15-2015
[quote wolfs4evr]I was up on the north end of the lake last Saturday. Zero boils. What there is left of coves due to the lower lake levels are chocked full of carp. 10s of thousands. Never seen so many and so active before... Only one spot that I came across had Stripers in it. Not a lot and fairly deep. Bait/jigging depths.[/quote]
Sounds like it's time to invest in a bow fishing rig. I checked them out this spring. I may get my son one for his birthday later this year. He seemed interested when he was with me looking at them. I will let him collect the bait for us.[
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Re: [Greg84] Striper boils yet? - Shogunofthecity - 07-16-2015
Personally I think the bad weather fronts that have been stacked up for so long have played the most part in the stripers attitude. I have not seen any boils lately myself and I fish often, although I never even expect to see boils anytime around a week within a storm front. But the stripers are still out there and are the aggressive eating machines that we all have grown to love. Many times around a storm you may see fish stacked up along the bottom or just piled up on points, I usually just pass them by as they will usually have lock jaw. So my recommendation is the same as usual, the live bait is plentiful at the moment with baby gizzard shad, and look for active marks, which happen to be mid water column lately. I was out last Friday evening to Saturday morning and landed 35 stripers and was just out this evening and landed 19 stripers with 13 of them in the 2.5lb+ range. The wind is brutal so be careful and take a buddy if possible if your on a kayak, or at least be sure to notify someone where your heading and take a VHF if you have one. I hope this helps guys. Good luck, and tight lines.
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Re: [wolfs4evr] Striper boils yet? - 07yzryder - 07-16-2015
[quote wolfs4evr]I was up on the north end of the lake last Saturday. Zero boils. What there is left of coves due to the lower lake levels are chocked full of carp. 10s of thousands. Never seen so many and so active before... Only one spot that I came across had Stripers in it. Not a lot and fairly deep. Bait/jigging depths.[/quote]
hhmmmm might be able to thin the heard with my spear gun that has never been used lol.
are all the coves stacked like this? any easily accessible without a boat?
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Re: [Greg84] Striper boils yet? - TheWhizzle - 07-17-2015
I've got a theory about the boils guys....
In the past, threadfin shad were the main forage species in the lake. Gizzards were not present in large numbers until recently.
Threadfin become pelagic in warm months; that is, they roam open water. When there were only threadfin in the lake, the stripers were almost forced to boil on these open water schools of threadfin during the warm months, and we would see the boils pop up like clockwork around July every year.
Now, we have an abundance of gizzard shad, which do not become pelagic in the warm months (they can still be found in coves in the summer). With all of the large (2 pound plus) gizzards spawning twice a year, we have small shad in abundance all over the place. The stripers are therefore not forced to roam open water looking for tight schools of threadfin to get a meal. They can get their fill of baby gizzards without having to expend the energy of pack feeding in a boil.
Thus, I believe that the good old days of chasing striper boils every day in the summer may be over.
That's not to say they wont boil, but I really think we will be seeing less of this activity.
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Re: [TheWhizzle] Striper boils yet? - Shogunofthecity - 07-17-2015
[quote TheWhizzle]I've got a theory about the boils guys....
In the past, threadfin shad were the main forage species in the lake. Gizzards were not present in large numbers until recently.
Threadfin become pelagic in warm months; that is, they roam open water. When there were only threadfin in the lake, the stripers were almost forced to boil on these open water schools of threadfin during the warm months, and we would see the boils pop up like clockwork around July every year.
Now, we have an abundance of gizzard shad, which do not become pelagic in the warm months (they can still be found in coves in the summer). With all of the large (2 pound plus) gizzards spawning twice a year, we have small shad in abundance all over the place. The stripers are therefore not forced to roam open water looking for tight schools of threadfin to get a meal. They can get their fill of baby gizzards without having to expend the energy of pack feeding in a boil.
Thus, I believe that the good old days of chasing striper boils every day in the summer may be over.
That's not to say they wont boil, but I really think we will be seeing less of this activity.[/quote]
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Well said Whizzle
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Re: [TheWhizzle] Striper boils yet? - Greg84 - 07-18-2015
[quote TheWhizzle]I've got a theory about the boils guys....
In the past, threadfin shad were the main forage species in the lake. Gizzards were not present in large numbers until recently.
Threadfin become pelagic in warm months; that is, they roam open water. When there were only threadfin in the lake, the stripers were almost forced to boil on these open water schools of threadfin during the warm months, and we would see the boils pop up like clockwork around July every year.
Now, we have an abundance of gizzard shad, which do not become pelagic in the warm months (they can still be found in coves in the summer). With all of the large (2 pound plus) gizzards spawning twice a year, we have small shad in abundance all over the place. The stripers are therefore not forced to roam open water looking for tight schools of threadfin to get a meal. They can get their fill of baby gizzards without having to expend the energy of pack feeding in a boil.
Thus, I believe that the good old days of chasing striper boils every day in the summer may be over.
That's not to say they wont boil, but I really think we will be seeing less of this activity.[/quote]
Buzzkill... Chasing stripers was as close to chasing schools of tuna back home in Hawaii as I could get here... Realistically, I think pack feeding is probably the least energy intensive action, since you condense everything into a ball that can't escape.
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Re: [TheWhizzle] Striper boils yet? - StarsnStripers - 07-18-2015
I agree with Whizzle 100%
Now i am curious what you guys think. Are the gizzard shad a good thing or a bad thing?
Im still on the fence about it. Im hopeful it will lead to alot bigger fish in the lake with the gizzard reaching the size they are but are there enough big striper now to keep the giant shad population in check? Or is it better to have a billion giant shad?
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Re: [StarsnStripers] Striper boils yet? - lvfishingdude - 07-18-2015
i think it is a very good thing! All they are doing is making the stripers bigger.
Instead of people thinking they have to go down to Willow Beach for a chance to catch a trophy, in my opinion you have a better chance to catch a trophy out of Lake Mead than Willow since they stopped stocking trout down there.
I do agree with Wizzle about why the boils aren't like they used to be since there is so much bait in the water. With the lake level being so low and so much bait, the stripers don't have to hunt for it.
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